At the end of both of these movies, they try to lift something big. I really wanted to feel out where Kylo would be compared to Darth Vader, which will be my next post. Reviews: 0. They knew she had to be the offspring of a powerful Force user, and while many predicted it was going to be Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker, or even Obi-Wan Kenobi, it wasn't an unreasonable theory her powers could originate with the dark side. On the Falcon, Obi-Wan blinded Luke, forcing him to rely on the Force to guide his actions to block the blaster bolts. Rey lifts up a crap-ton of rocks, while Luke doesn’t move the X-wing. Bro you obviously don't understand. If you are experiencing any problems or have any issues, please use the report function or do not hesitate to contact our moderators directly. In TLJ, Kylo Ren asks her to join the dark side. 1. and if you add vader, its a stomp .vader is the chosen one ,even in that burnt state and his power is off the charts and he has immense experience in slaying jedis ,so 2 shitty kids wont prove a challenge for vader, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Luke prit le sabre de son père et, après l'avoir observé quelque secondes, le jeta derrière lui avant de partir dans sa hutte à la grande surprise de Rey. It was revealed that Daisy Ridley's character was the granddaughter of Emperor Palpatine, who she later defeats thanks to some vital help from Ben Solo. R1: ESB Luke will beat her bad in dueling. Publié par Lisa Muratore le 14 janvier 2021 à 11h00 . La jeune femme suivi Luke jusqu'à sa hutte et en fit dégonder la porte par Chewbacca. R3,im assuming that luke here is ROTJ verison luke ,so he alone should pose a threat since he got strongerin rotj and his anger gives him a power boost. 0. Tier: 9-A naturally. How does Luke have a better chance at force powers? She says no. Also - is the Emperor there watching? Either way Ren goes all nerdy when he sees Vader (Grandfather!!) The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. What even is this trilogy. Round 1: pure lightsaber combat in the emperors throne room Round 2: battle on mustafar with force powers and aforementioned lightsabers Round 3: Luke and Vader vs Kylo and Rey both bloodlusted. The FO is about to catch up and rey senses Kylo. Luke wins all rounds. She literally can't fail, because when she does "fail" she wins even more. Cookies help us deliver our Services. She really and truly is a better Jedi than Anakin or, for that matter, Luke Skywalker ever were at this stage in both of their careers. So first Rey has been in 2 movies. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. “Some things never change.” If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Its like jackhammer vs a boulder. My personal vote; Please no mention of plot power, Rey’s only power will come from her feats. Luuuke Skywalker was a genetic clone of the Jedi Master Luke Skywalker created by Grand Admiral Thrawn to serve as his agent in the galactic community, supporting the reigning Galactic Federation of Free Alliances government and filling the role of Grand Master of the New Jedi Order as one of his many clone servants in similarly prominent positions. and leaves Rey all alone. Yay? But somehow Papa Palpatine didn’t do this with all of the hundreds of ships that he Force Lightning’d out of the sky?? There's no real temptation to join the Dark Side. SWC MERCH HERE: https://teespring.com/stores/swc-2TWITCH: https://www.twitch.tv/starwarscoffeeytTWITTER: https://twitter.com/SWCoffeeYouTubeE-Mail: … He was sidelined and his character arc completely mistreated and mishandled. R1 Luke takes it. And Luke is rewarded for his moral integrity by being proven right about the good in Vader, with Vader turning on his master to protect his child. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By Saim Cheeda Mar 26, 2020. The TIE eats the ground, both wings lost, the cockpit rolls ar full speed over the ground, crashes into a wall and explodes. There's every chance Luke loses his head while protesting against fighting Rey. She claims to be "all the Jedi" when she frequently draws upon anger in battle, has used sith lightning, killed someone who turned around and dropped their weapon, and more. Rey is related to Luke and Leia, but in a way that isn’t annoying. Over and over again Rey wins through power/skill she doesn't really earn. Different feats, but still, Rey is presented as a naturally incredibly powerful force user, whether the fans like it or not. Thank you and May the Force Salt Be With You! Follow 5. R1 Isnt as clear cut. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Followers. Luke Skywalker Vs Rey. R3 - Which Vader? His victory is, again, a moral victory where he refused to take that final step in executing an unarmed Vader. Press J to jump to the feed. That's all. Rey Skywalker. None of this seems to apply to Rey, who can just do anything when the time comes for it. He achieves this by using the exact same lesson Obi-Wan taught him him on the Falcon. People say it’s because of her ancestry to Palpatine but Luke Skywalker’s dad was literally DARTH VADER/ANAKIN. You hate to see it. However, this is highly contested, as the movie's novelization reveals that this Palpatine was merely a clone, therefore delegitimizing Rey and Kylo as the killers. Kylo Ren is powerful, but I think Rey goes out first leaving luke and vader against Kylo and he can't handle that kind of heat. It’s Darth Vader! Then, in Empire, after years of training alone and training under Yoda, he loses, badly, in his first real duel. Luke fut ravi de revoir son vieil ami Wookiee mais fut aussi surprit de ne pas vo… After an afternoon of lessons meant to dissuade her of the Jedi's necessity, she beats the guards and lifts countless rocks. Come on, what are those kids gonna do? None of that is a Jedi, that's a fucking sith. Because he does so using the dark side of the Force. Forum Posts. En effet, dans l’épisode 7, la jeune Jedi parvient à piloter intuitivement l’épave du Faucon Millenium comme Luke et son père Anakin l’ont fait par le passé, ensuite, le sabre de Luke provoque chez Rey une réaction toute particulière, d'étranges hallucinations. Star Wars L'Ascension de Skywalker : Kylo Ren vs Snoke, lequel est le plus puissant ? I feel he is the superior combatant in terms of lightsaber abilities. We allowed ourselves to buy into the myth that was Luke Skywalker when we really should've been more focused on the man- a flawed hero right from the very beginning. Unforgiveable. I wholeheartedly agree, although I think it’d be close in round 2. In his X-wing, Luke blinds himself, with Obi-Wan's guidance from beyond the grave, forcing him to rely on the Force to guide his actions. The guy with the highest midichlorian count.. Who said Anakin has the most potential? In the novelization, Vader praised Luke's agility. When Rey finds Luke she's expecting to find the great Jedi Master, but what she found was simply a flawed old man filled with regret. Luke is sorr… By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When Rey turned out to be a descendant of Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, some fans weren't very surprised. Remember, while STC is a community for discussion and critique, it is also peppered with satire. Luke Skywalker vs Rey: Who’s a Mary Sue. He loses his hand, and he only escapes because he's willing to fall to what could easily be his own death. “You manbaby dudebros just want ElderGod Luke. Luke Vs. Rey: Who Was The Better Star Wars Protagonist? Luke has classic Jedi training focusing on justice and peace - Rey is far more plucky and 'fight to win'. Press J to jump to the feed. 1. Battle. her losing focus didn't cause her to lose her grip on it, but rather do more effort consuming powerful lightning!? 0. I hate how the sequel trilogy has undermined and unraveled the original trilogy more than I hate the sequel trilogy for its fan-fic characters like MaRey Sue. Out of the previous TIE explosion an unharmed Kylo ren walks out. She is sheev's granddaughter, which definitely excuses all of this. (he progressively gets darker as the show continues). I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Why would he just randomly temporarily stun them?? The sequel trilogies are bad movies on their own, but they can't be so easily ignored when they're part of this now-neverending franchise. His victory is a moral one, where he chooses to fall rather than join Vader. Luke at the end of empire strikes back, with a new lightsaber and hand, Rey at the end of the last Jedi, with a lightsaber. Other Reddit users counter the theory, claiming that Palpatine was the real winner of their duel, making Rey or Kylo Ren the rightful heir to the weapon since they defeated him in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.. Rey est un personnage de fiction de l'univers Star Wars. Too many to poll, unfortunately, but what is the best lightsaber fight in the Skywalker Saga? Vader is already insanely powerful and more able to use the force than any of the others due to the sheer time he has had to perfect it. The other two victories are moral victories. R2 Rey takes it as she was able to perform the mind trick after 2 attempts and her force pull equalled Kylo Ren's. Rey beats Kylo Ren without any training or any real lesson about how to use the Force. Rey has lots of raw power, but Luke has skill, training, and experience on his side. She is one of the new characters of the series, and is the main protagonist of the sequel films, having debuted in Episode Vll: The Force Awakens. Even if we assume that Rey has more raw power than Luke, Luke has refined his into a far more effective and reliable tool. Share Share Tweet Email. It's not a victory, but a failure. Luke at the end of empire strikes back, with a new lightsaber and hand, Rey at the end of the last Jedi, with a lightsaber. No. Funko seems to have made the first jump, and the Ben Solo and Rey Skywalker Pops will be necessary additions to any fan's collection. Mis à jour le 14 janvier 2021 à 11h05 . r1 luke plain and simple ,since had more experience and got training from yoda himself . and she fucking destroys it with LIGHTNING. Welcome to r/saltierthancrait! Luuuke was the replacement of another clone, Luuke Skywalker, who had fulfi… Please familiarize yourself with this post for the rules and guidelines of this sub before participating. After a year of training with Leia, Rey beats Palpatine. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. Posted by 1 year ago. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The guards in Snokes throne room weren’t that great. After a year of training with Leia, Rey beats Palpatine. “STAR WARS, and Luke Skywalker in particular, meant a great deal to me,” Reed wrote to Hamill, sharing and black and white photo of the Star Wars actor on set. They want to escape from the sand planet you know from the trailer, so they go to an abondened ship which just stands there for years, fully operational without anyone stealing it (the ship you know from the rey memory, when her parents leave the planet). Cookies help us deliver our Services. Since TLJ came out, the amount of people who claim Rey is a Mary Sue has skyrocketed. Please no mention of plot power, Rey’s only power will come from her feats. The new wave of Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker Pops, is … Over and over again Rey wins through power/skill she doesn't really earn. Rey rencontre le droïde BB-8, le stormtrooper en fuite Finn, puis Han Solo, Chewbacca et le pilote Poe Dameron, et rejoint rapidement les rangs de la Résista… Rey has claimed the surname "Skywalker" for herself, and in doing so has unwittingly incorporated herself - and the Jedi Order she will found - into the prophecy of the Chosen One. Her victories aren't really moral ones. Finn is screaming at rey that they got chewie (in the transporter ship). Then in Jedi, Luke is overwhelmed by anger at Vader, beats him down and cuts off his hand, before realizing what he's doing. He held his own against Vader who was a better duelist than his pre-cyborg self who was one of the greatest duelists in RotS's time. Fan reaction to Rise Of Skywalker has been mixed, to say the least, however, one thing that can't be denied is that Rey Skywalker is one of the most powerful Jedi ever.Imbued with the powers of all the Jedi, she was able to put an end to the returned Emperor Palpatine and bring peace to galaxy once more. It's like if Paris decided to bulldoze a part of Notre Dame in order to build the 2024 Olympic Village. And the movie finally sheds light on the character of Rey who, up to this point, was something of a mystery. Luke's victory is not one tied to his power or his skill as a Jedi. Not sure i understand your reasoning. As the Star Wars franchise has grown, the path to becoming a Jedi remains a vital part of the story. After the fall of the empire, he would go on to establish the New Jedi Order and eventually serve as its Grand Master. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker brought the epic story started way back in 1977 to a dramatic and entertaining end. After Luke is born, the only direct interaction he had with Padmé, was one when she touched him on his belly, a sign of her love and affection for her son. La réponse la plus évidente : Rey serait la fille de Luke Skywalker. She walks away from the ship and just stands there. Luke Skywalker is one of Star Wars' most powerful Jedi, but his training didn't last as long as some fans might think. Rey vs Luke Skywalker 86 results; 1; 2; Rilzus. Saltier Than Crait (STC) is a community of Star Wars fans who want to engage in critical discussion of the franchise. So she does and they fly away... New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the saltierthancrait community. MaRey Sue is my biggest problem right behind brining Palpatine back just to make him act like a idiot and kill him off again to take away Anakin and Lukes accomplishments. Lol it’s obviously Rey. Posts; Likes; Following; Ask me anything; Archive; Finn fans still have the most valid reasons to be upset and irritated with Disney and Lucasfilm. He’s the better Duelist at this point. In Marvel's Journey to Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker -- Allegiance, however, we're seeing the truth and it has nothing to do with luck.Rey's not a fluke or simply being given power boosts for mere plot convenience. We try to maintain a civil, welcoming space with a diversity of (salty) points of view. She screams chewies name since she thought he was in there and now dead (he is not). Luke has one victory that can be attributed to skill/power, which is basically an extension of a specific lesson already learnt. Grabbing a ship ROCKETING in the opposite direction with less effort than Master Yoda took to move some rocks. Rey only beat Kyle because he had just been shot by Chewbacca, then he got into a sword fight with Finn. In Empire, Luke has lost a hand and basically thinks he's going to die unless he joins the Dark Side, so he decides to probably die. Shortly after giving birth to his twin sister Leia, she dies. Comment. And Luke is still a better duelist than Rey, in my opinion. Lors de sa première apparition, dans Star Wars, épisode VII : Le Réveil de la Force (2015), où elle tient le rôle principal, elle est une jeune pilleuse d'épaves solitaire vivant sur la planète Jakku où elle a été abandonnée enfant. 0. Archived. Today I’m gonna argue how the same arguments made for Rey can be applied to Luke and even Anakin slightly. And that was … Close. He then disarms himself, choosing to accept whatever fate the Emperor bestows upon him, and wait for the Rebels to blow up the Death Star and everyone on it. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Her victories aren't really moral ones. r2 ,rey mid diff since he had better latent pontial and power compared to that version of luke . Rey learns her grandpa was evil, I guess? So right as it took off rey is force pulling the fucking ship back. Kylo in his TIE tries to run her over but she backflips over it and cut off one wing with her saber. He sees what Rey is doing and tries to release the transporter ship with his force, rey has to focus a little bit more to hold the ship and accedently blows it up by using force lightning. Then, in Jedi, after some more training alone, Luke defeats Vader. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. Rey Skywalker is a human female scavenger who discovered her latent Force-sensitivity while on a quest to find the legendary Jedi Master Luke Skywalker and bring a new hope to a galaxy on the brink of war. SPOILERS - Les journalistes de "Star Wars News Net" affirment que des sources leur ont confié qu'une scène de "Star Wars 9" sera centrée sur Luke et une nouvelle héroïne de la saga. The force is not a superpower!”. Introduced in the 2015 film Star Wars: The Force … Battle . Also, why would a bloodlusted ren help his enemy? After an afternoon of lessons meant to dissuade her of the Jedi's necessity, she beats the guards and lifts countless rocks. We know from watching Anakin during the clone wars that the dark side is like a drug, the more you use it, the more consumed you are by it. Wiki Points. She can use force lighting (by accident somehow) despite it being a very powerful force, and something that is a dark side power, as it requires drawing upon anger/dark side to use. Finn tells rey to get on board. Entertainment Weekly traite la relation entre Luke et Rey dans Les Derniers Jedi. Why was she such a threat because she's Palp's granddaughter where as Palp's son is not threat at all? User ... ROTJ Luke > TROS Rey, by a slight advantage in Sabers.. Padmé believed that Luke, along with Leia, could save their father, Anakin and redeem him. R3 is tough but I feel that Vader/Luke takes it. You are indeed where you belong. Luke has trained with Obi Wan and Yoda, and fought Vader. You could feel her disappointment because WE (the audience) were disappointed. That's about it. Luke Skywalker Vs Rey. In A New Hope, Luke is victorious through using the Force to blow up the Death Star. Take what you read here with a grain of... salt. Signifying this, Rey's lightsaber blade is colored yellow, muted from the Jedi blue and Sith red. Rey beats Kylo Ren without any training or any real lesson about how to use the Force. 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