‘Progressive’ government steals our unalienable Rights and then rents them back to us with unwarranted control mandates imposed. Hope this clears up a common, FUD-filled rumor! If it is specified in a search warrant, you must provide codes and passwords to allow access. Those auto-play ads here that you cannot stop makes you not want to come here. Law Enforcement will do what they want to do and may pay you in somebody else’s tax dollars at a later point, well after the damage has already been done. I have had some people argue that mere knowledge you own a NFA firearm will make the police more likely to search you or your house. I have had some people argue that mere knowledge you own a NFA firearm will make the police more likely to search you or your house. However, there are important exceptions. Starting with the “certified letter” and the attorney’s name. You obviously have no real inkling of what progressive is. I think that about says it all…. I would like to point out as my family owned a Pawn Shop for 30 years an FFL inspection also does not force the business owner to give up 4th amendment rights. However, an arrest warrant does not typically provide law enforcement with the right to enter the residence of a third party. Police searches of your home are not legal uness they have a warrant, which has to be signed by a judge. They reduce traffic (folks stop coming), and they reduce revenue (folks shut off ads completely). For a vehicle search to be legal, police only need to have probable cause that there’s incriminating evidence inside. The recent m855 debacle should be more than enough evidence of this for anyone of this. We were all instructed to sit on the couch, and we had 4 agents looking over us while the rest were swarming the house. So, either TTAG has no power and should change providers, or TTAG does have the power, but chooses to not use it — punishing folks who choose not to, or simply can’t, take mitigating steps. The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees the people's right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, which often -- but not always -- means that government agents must have a warrant to search and seize your person and property. The other side of the coin from “US v. Miller” which stated, “The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.” MGs (automatic weapons) are obviously “military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia”. If police believe it is necessary to be armed during the search, this must be approved by the magistrate or official who issued the search warrant. It took me a few minutes to calm down after realizing that the ATF actually came to my house. Somewhere, I also got the idea (don’t rely on it) that if you have a registered select fire whatever, whether it is suppressed, SBR, whatever is uncontrolled, full auto carries the whole shitaree. The FBI, ATF, and DEA are some of the agencies that would have the authority to search your home. They do whatever they want, whenever they want, and no one can stop them legally. At least, it doesn’t make Federal intrusion any more likely than it is for a non-NFA owner or, for that matter, a non-firearm owner. * The ATF wants a few weekday hours of operation on the application, but will not show up at that time without an appointment. If you read the dissent on the 7th circuit ruling the other day, it basically flat out said that automatic weapons are not covered by the 2A, under the guise that “they’re not common in civilian hands”. Just an ignorant but serious question on this subject of ATF inspections.. Would this still hold true, if the universal background check or other related bills of the list of 4 that was just defeated, but most likely will comeback after july reopening of government? A licensee with a Type 03 FFL (the “C&R”/”Collector” FFL) can purchase C&R NFA firearms without having to go through a dealer. Eventually, those two opinions are going to have to butt heads. You know, if you did this by the book, with full disclosure, and simply stuck to the facts, without spin or lies, So, in an effort to provide gun owners with the most up-to-date information, the ATF has compiled the list of the top 10 most frequently asked questions. HE didn’t call them that, but then he used to be one of them…. These comments stem from the belief that NFA ownership means the ATF is legally allowed to stop by and enter your home at any random time for a no-warrant-or-notification-needed “NFA inspection,” and that you’re obligated to comply. Hmm. The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees the people's right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, which often -- but not always -- means that government agents must have a warrant to search and seize your … While we are on the topic of disreputeable, any news on ATGs negotiations with certain Congress critters, and gun rights advocates to quietly revise some laws, through new legislation, to help the ATF off the hook of litigation and the discovery process, that would reveal the incompetence, or perhaps, similar malfeasance under the color of authority of the law? That description is almost disingenuous when contrasted with some of their recent & past actions. No, owning NFA-regulated firearms is not any sort of reason for any sort of judge to issue a warrant, either. Importantly, the officer can only search the areas of the home that your normally use, such as your bedroom, the bathroom, and other common living spaces. Generally speaking the answer to both of your questions is yes. I don’t actually know how this rule applies to an integral suppressor, though. To search someone’s home, police normally need to first get a search warrant.Vehicles, however, are treated differently. Note: the post date: post dem fillabuster and failure to pass any of 4 anti gun bills. Broad dissemination is requested. At all. This simply is not the case. If the police want to search you or your home then they must have probable cause. * The inspection is limited to the area of the home you explicitly define as the the FFL business area (e.g. Or even a friendly request — “oh hello sir, we understand you own an NFA item. My question involves search and seizure law in the State of: Washington I wanted to know can the A.T.F. This warrant is called a “search warrant.” The search warrant is approved by a judge. The ads still load (so I guess TTAG gets some revenue) but then they are deleted from the page display. Both of which, they did. Registering an NFA item does NOT waive one iota of your 4th Amendment or other rights. Despite the fact that antis try to twist Miller more than a double-helix (and sadly succeed) the ruling would have been very pro-gun. We should be Constitutionally allowed to carry that which is one step better than that which can be used against us. “Morons Against Legal Guns type entities” ” MILFs Demanding Attention” Is Bloomberg paid front groups, He is ABSOLUTELY NOT PROGRESSIVE AT ALL. I suppose there’s a disconnect here. The second circumstance is when the need to execute the search is so urgent that the delay caused by obtaining a warrant would ‘defeat the object of the search’. Thus allowing agent to do warrant-less search of the open safe that they refused to open during inspection, because its in clear view of agents eyes being open during “surprise inspection” AKA “knock and talk” They then can do seizure if something was out of place. shh, jeez “Mike” we’re just using our ‘fake’ names today. Yeah, sure. Now whether the ATF is going to violate your rights is another subject that I shouldn’t have accidently touched…. For instance, if it’s an Uzi or a Mac-10, it’s a single stamp “machine gun” no matter what the barrel length is and whether or not it has a stock. As a general rule, your home can be searched without a search warrant while on parole or probation. But still working to remove him from office seems a little silly at this point? To bust criminals, ATF agents collect evidence through surveillance and search warrants. . In this case, the search violated your constitutional rights. along with libertarian “heritage foundation” etc. Allowing government agencies to continue to access this data does not seem aligned with a sense of freedom. They’re ‘never going to come inspect your stuff’. It even mentioned that they weren’t common back in the day, save for criminals, so restricting them was likely constitutional. Atf has become a rogue agency you have to right to an attorney use it. Most folks don’t have a problem with video per se (save that it’s slow, and bandwidth hungry, and crushes browsers), but having the sound belt out on some ad, on some page, at full volume, is just the worst possible customer experience, in every possible way. And they do all of that for about $38,388 a year . and during civil war. Plainly speaking, this allows police to search and seize evidence if they believe the suspect is going to destroy it or remove it imminently. Progressive are a LOOSE organization. But the auto plays are terrible. It is not a good idea to restrict the police from searching if they demand to search your house or office even if they do not have an warrant to do so, since they can use force with impunity and later on justify the search under Section 165. It doesn’t make that sort of activity any more legal than not owning any NFA items. The ATF wanted persons are the result of ATF criminal investigations, often in conjunction with other law enforcement agencies, that resulted in the issuance of a federal arrest warrant. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I wolud have to agree with chuckusaret, atf does not make friendly visits and they will have a warrant, and they will enter and search, keep you mouth shut and call your attorney before answering any questions. . Still has to do the Form 4 to transfer the gun, but it can transfer directly from the seller to the new owner once the Form 4 is approved. None of that article has anything to do with private citizens owning NFA items. For the record, I have never ever heard of or seen evidence of an “NFA inspection” of a private party. On the other hand, if the officers have no warrant and simply ask for permission to enter or search the house, you have a right to refuse. Again, this does NOT mean the ATF, IRS, or any other Federal agency won’t abuse its power and do illegal things to people. No. The blockquote tag wasn’t closed out with a /blockquote at the end, from what I could tell. Instead of abusing the honorable oath taking agents there, by managerial and politicians pressure to force them to instead manufacture fake crimes, to provide cover for illegal anti-citizen action, including violating soveireign countries territorial rights, by smuggling in assault rifles to justify illegal regulation on more citizens, and small businesses. There is no waiver of your rights or giving of any sort of consent whatsoever to the sort of inspection you say your friend submitted to by owning an NFA item. These powers can be put into practise with or without a search warrant. Very simple and free software. Having a warrant to search your home gives police the broadest right to conduct a search. They found no weapons but took my … There’s too many hundreds of examples of bad behavior to believe any of this pollyanna delusion. While State laws vary from State to State the basic rule is: Bounty hunters have varying levels of authority in their duties with regard to their targets depending on which states they operate in. @jjl471 With a few exceptions (fresh pursuit, consent, imminent destruction of evidence, a threat to public safety) police need a warrant to enter your house. I got to ask. Granted, the ATF is not the most transparent federal agency, but I hear a lot of myths about the ATF from clients and friends. ATF does NOT call to make an appointment to inspect an FFL. I’d love to see that happen and I fully believe it damn well should happen. During the execution of a search warrant, the police will generally prevent anyone from arriving or leaving the home, or from using any property in the home. They can’t accuse you of having kiddie porn. Oh, wait, something doesn’t look right. I get what you’re saying… but there’s comes a point where you just have to say… efff it, i wanna have some cool toys and some REAL fun at the range. it’s pretty foolhardy not to block every single ad co. everywhere. Sex . People who talk to the police under such stressful circumstances rarely do themselves any favors. Bloomberg is defacto definition of “corrupt totalitarian”. During the 30 year course of owning the shop they have been inspection many times and never had any issues with them, now the local police was a different story and on more then one occasion their attorney had to show up and tell them to leave the property because they didn’t have a warranty which did lead to legal action in court ending in their favor. Ahhh, 47 Years, and they still love how their applied headcount doesn’t constitute ‘throttling’ when it comes to Form 4 Approvals. This is completely false! So the net effect is slowly bankrupting the feds, which is good for everybody. THE ATF NEED TO KEEP THEIR HANDS OFF 80 Percenters and criminals kill criminals so be it, SAVES US MONEY ON JAILING ON HOUSING THEM, governments commit atrocities and murder by the thousands just remember 911 and if you still believe that was not your government then you are ignorant and will get just what you deserve. Common reason we see the ATF when I know someone is going to have to let him.! 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